E038 “…the most important part of marketing is still getting the sale…”

May 13, 2019

The Copywriter Club’s Rob Marsh joins host D.P. Knudten for a conversation about copy—what it is (and isn’t) and why marketing that doesn’t ultimately convert (into sales or relationship) is a waste of time, money and effort. 


The NONFICTION BRAND podcast is hosted by D.P. Knudten and a variety of special guests. While focused on the art and craft of personal branding, each episode ranges widely based on whatever happened to be on the minds of D.P. and his guest(s).

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